Author Topic: Blackadder's Scratchbuilt Warhound (Read 14 times)

Blackadder · « **on:** November 19, 2009, 11:56:41 AM »

I use the name Blackadder. I like to scratchbuilt the larger 40K warmachines. My current project is a Lucius Pattern Warhound I call Lucie. Lucie is about 95% complete and I would like to share my building techniques with other like minded individuals on this forum.

This is my scratchbuilt Warhound Titan as it stands today.

I still have the weapons and armour to fabricate; a few minor details and of course painting. Right now she just has a coat of primer. I have a complete set of images of the whole manufacture of this model and being new to this forum I was looking for the right place to post a construction article.

Tell me what you think,

The Blackadder

I'm afraid I posted this in the wrong area. Would the mods please rectify this

Thx,

Blackadder

Blackadder · « **Reply #1 on:** November 19, 2009, 01:43:30 PM »

I hope the mods will put this in the proper topic, It's embarrassing to make such a tyro mistake. LOL

Anyhow:

Just a few more images of Lucie as she is today. Lucie has fully articulated legs and feet.

all the joints on her toes flex to the limits of the FW design. This is one of the reasons it has taken me so long to build this model. designing the joints and making them strong enough to take flexing so she can be fully poseable.

Lucie and friends.

She looks strange without arms.

Posing with my superheavy scratchbuilt Titan Hunter .

Leaving her companions in the dust.

Blackadder

Scythican · « **Reply #2 on:** November 19, 2009, 02:14:29 PM »

Well I can say this, it is very awesome. I would love to know the details of this thing's construction. Heck even if you decided not to make the weapons, you could easily buy them from forgeworld and finish this bad boy up. Please let use know how you made it!

Stewie Griffin · « **Reply #3 on:** November 19, 2009, 03:34:37 PM »

SWEET MERCIFUL klkn!

that is freakin awesome!, cant wait to see it painted

Warptide · « **Reply #4 on:** November 19, 2009, 04:17:16 PM »

That is hands down the most amazing scratch built model I've ever seen, and likely will see. What weapons are you going to give Lucie?

Unholy Harbinger · « **Reply #5 on:** November 19, 2009, 04:37:36 PM »

Excuse me while I run downstairs to pick up my jaw!

That is so good if you hadn't of told me it was a scratchbuild i wpould have thought it a FW one.

Please share how you built this.

Oh and lucius pattern is the best one in my mind.

Anubis · « **Reply #6 on:** November 19, 2009, 04:55:00 PM »

Looking awesome dude!!!

I am Legion · « **Reply #7 on:** November 19, 2009, 05:14:00 PM »

HOLY shtlk!!!! You scratchbuilt that??!?!?!
That's simply incredible, It looks like the real thing. in fact if you didn't say that this was scratchbuilt I would have thought it was the real thing. Great work.
By the by Blackadder is one of my all time favourite comedies. So double kudos to you.

Scythican · « **Reply #8 on:** November 19, 2009, 09:31:02 PM »

Are right dude. You are going to either have to give up the plans, or make some more and sell them. I was just looking around on ebay and I found one that is nowhere near as good as yours (even without the arms) and the last time I checked it was at $170.00 USD. Check it out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SCRATCH-BUILT-WARHOUND-TITAN-40K-SCALE_W0QQitemZ300367000468QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Toys_Wargames_RL?hash=item45ef44b394

Anubis · « **Reply #9 on:** November 19, 2009, 10:05:27 PM »

that one sucks dyi.
dude this one looks easily plausible that it could have been a fully fledged forgeworld kit.
I definitely take my hat off to you.

Scythican · « **Reply #10 on:** November 19, 2009, 10:17:55 PM »

Quote from: Anubis on November 19, 2009, 10:05:27 PM

that one sucks dyi.
dude this one looks easily plausible that it could have been a fully fledged forgeworld kit.
I definitely take my hat off to you.

My point exactly. If a few bidders think that one is worth $170.00, I could only imagine what they would think of this one.

salamut2202 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 19, 2009, 10:18:16 PM »

that's scratch built? no way, really? your pulling our legs, aren't you? that's crazy!

Blackadder · « **Reply #12 on:** November 20, 2009, 12:29:26 AM »

Wow that's quite a reception. I don't recall getting that many responses to a first post. Thank you all very much.

Yes Lucie is entirely scratchbuilt and the labor of many hours. If I were to sell her on eBay she would probably have to sell for three to four times the cost of a FW titan to make it worth my while and even then I would be working for less than minimum wage. I started construction on Lucie (Short for Lucius Pattern) April first of this year. The initial prototype in foam was pretty pitiful and yet it is still the core of the present model of Lucie

One week into the build and I was still feeling my way along as far as size and proportion. Surprisingly the hull and carapace I had nailed from the beginning. I have not had to change anything on either other than to skin them with plasticard.

The legs were another story. My first set were functional but too small and dainty.

I'm looking forward to sharing my techniques on this forum,

BTW The Blackadder series is my all time favorite as well.

Next post I'll jump ahead to show the armament. For now a Megabolter and a Turbo Laser(I already made a Plasma Cannon for the Titan Hunter). Lucie will have a full array of the Warhound arsenal when I am finished.

E.B.

SILKiam · « **Reply #13 on:** November 20, 2009, 12:44:12 AM »

Dude! You deserve a spot of karma for the awesomeness!

Odo The Brave · « **Reply #14 on:** November 20, 2009, 01:39:35 AM »

Wow, this is amazing. To be entirely honest, this is the best scratchbuild I've ever seen- much less the only scratchbuilt Titan I've seen on this site. When I first found this page I thought you were scratchbuilding weapons for a Warhound- I couldn't tell that yours wasn't a Forgeworld product! I hope that at some point you'll share with us your building materials and processes, I'd love to learn how you make these things even if my products are much worse quality than yours.

Blackadder · « **Reply #15 on:** November 20, 2009, 01:50:31 AM »

Alright one more post before I turn in.

Here's the Mega bolter and Turbo Laser as they are right now. If anyone is interested I'll post the building images.

EB

Anubis · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2009, 01:51:13 AM »

polystyrene?
that stuff gives me the heebie jeebies...

Blackadder · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2009, 11:11:29 AM »

Quote from: Lord Scythican on November 19, 2009, 02:14:29 PM

Well I can say this, it is very awesome. I would love to know the details of this thing's construction. Heck even if you decided not to make the weapons, you could easily buy them from forgeworld and finish this bad boy up. Please let use know how you made it!

Lucie weighs a fraction of what a real Warhound does which I figure to be about 4 to 6 pounds That would make the FW resin weapons about equal in weight to Lucie and she would topple forward. my weapons are on the order of an ounce or two and can be compensated for by adding weight to the inside shield generator housings. I haven't done that yet as I am waiting to finish the guns and mount them. I figure I have room for a quarter pound of lead in each housing.

Nothing thus far has been purchased as a premade item and I would like to keep it that way. I will use the skulls and aquilla from the bitz box for althought the skulls and the aqulla on the toe piston/cylinders are handmade

the larger skulls would need finer detail.

I plan a step by step discription of the build. Enough to make everyone sick of it. LOL

EB

Quote from: Anonymous

Hell I'm sick of it already Blackadder.

Figured I'd get that in before someone else did.

Blackadder

Kakashi Sensei · « **Reply #18 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:54:15 PM »

You've done a super-fantastic job so far, the Karma (for the awesomeness) was well deserved!

It's just remarkably similar to the actual FW model, but you can spot the differences.

I hope you'll get a respectable amount for this, for you've put a lot into this.

Blackadder · « **Reply #19 on:** November 21, 2009, 11:14:19 PM »

Sorry these are out of order but you can readily see the progression. Originally the toes were too weak and tended to break off. The new toes are a tad shorter, more robust, and the joint cylinders are more in scale.

All the joints are moveable and can be posed in any position. The hydraulic cylinder pistons move in and out as the toes flex and the cylinders are mounted on trunions so they follow the movement of the toes.

The hardest part of these assemblies was the repetition and the umpty ump rivets,

Blackadder

Typhon · « **Reply #20 on:** November 22, 2009, 12:41:46 AM »

Croiky (how do spell that?), that's amazing scratch building work, we're all very impressed.

Croiky, I've been killed by a stingray!

Blackadder · « **Reply #21 on:** November 22, 2009, 09:40:29 AM »

It was not my intent to impress so much as to demonstrate the building procedure. I hope I have not given the impression of self-aggrandizement.

The main intent of this thread is to share construction techniques as much as my poor photo documentation will allow. I work in flurries where much is done before I realize, "Hey I've gotta take some pictures!" Hence the sporadic documentation.

EB

Hive Trygon · « **Reply #22 on:** November 22, 2009, 04:49:15 PM »

This is pure gold!!! You should come by my forum and work on some stuff of your own we could convert into castings for you and people all over.

shaso kunas · « **Reply #23 on:** November 22, 2009, 05:01:29 PM »

this is stunning, seriously man, you should get a job with gw, you could esily do vehicles for them.

I honestly thought it was the kit untill I saw the feet (and the detail shots)

how long have you been doing this kind of thing?

Blackadder · « **Reply #24 on:** November 22, 2009, 09:45:15 PM »

Wanted to get this up before the end of the weekend. Lucie has guns, well weapons anyway. It's been a long wait but they came out fairly good. All that detail on the top and all you see is the bottoms and sides. The weapon hanging arms were a real bear. getting the length angle and size was really trying. The whole this is just slapped together temporarily so I size up the proportions. Everything looks okay so I'll finish the detail.

Blackadder

Chtzi dua ryu ruo · « **Reply #25 on:** November 22, 2009, 10:55:33 PM »

This is.... well, epic. I personally don't do Imperial, and Tau vehicles are hard to model, but from what I see here I can kind of guess that I either have the wrong stuff or I'm out of my league.

Where do you get the maderials? Where do you get the time?

Blackadder · « **Reply #26 on:** November 23, 2009, 12:03:58 AM »

Quote from: shaso kunas on November 22, 2009, 05:01:29 PM

this is stunning, seriously man, you should get a job with gw, you could esily do vehicles for them.

I honestly thought it was the kit untill I saw the feet (and the detail shots)

how long have you been doing this kind of thing?

This is my second complete scratch built vehicle. My first is the Titan Hunter Superheavy tank pictures with Lucie. Before that I converted an Armorcast Baneblade to a facsimile of a Forgeworld Lucius pattern Baneblade.

Before the heresy:

And After:

Before that I worked mainly with wood makeing 1:96 scale wooden US Sailing Navy Warships; I.E USF Constitution, US Ships of the Line Independence and Pennsylvania

Plasticard is much easier to work with compared to wood! LOL

EB

Blackadder · « **Reply #27 on:** November 23, 2009, 12:11:57 AM »

Quote from: PackedSnack on November 22, 2009, 10:55:33 PM

This is.... well, epic. I personally don't do Imperial, and Tau vehicles are hard to model, but from what I see here I can kind of guess that I either have the wrong stuff or I'm out of my league.

Where do you get the maderials? Where do you get the time?

The material mainly plasticard comes from the local hobby shops and the foam board comes from stationary stores. The PVC tubing and the dowels come from the local hardware store.

I like to devote an hour a day minimum before I go to work so I usually get up at 3:30 to 4:00 AM.

Sleep is a little slice of death that I begrudgingly have to succumb to on occasion but I don't make a habit of it if I can help it.

EB

Murchankite · « **Reply #28 on:** November 23, 2009, 05:37:47 AM »

wow, Your scratch build seems flawless.
I have the FW Mars pattern (they have some components in common) and looking at it your versions seem almost like perfect copies.

Im almost having a hard time believing its a proper scratch build, but i guess if you have the real kit available as a guideline its possible.

Anyways good luck with the paintjob

Blackadder · « **Reply #29 on:** November 23, 2009, 10:26:54 AM »

Quote from: Murchankite on November 23, 2009, 05:37:47 AM

wow, Your scratch build seems flawless.
I have the FW Mars pattern (they have some components in common) and looking at it your versions seem almost like perfect copies.

I'm almost having a hard time believing its a proper scratch build, but i guess if you have the real kit available as a guideline its possible.

Anyways good luck with the paintjob

If I had a real Warhound I probably wouldn't have needed to attempt this other than to do it right and then I just would have modified the FW Warhound. I have no plans drawings or even measurements from which to draw. All I have are dozens of images from the internet and the cryptic hint from FW that the model stands 10.5 inches tall.

My greatest fear is that someday I'll have a real Warhound to compare it to and I will find it is monstrously large or ridiculously small.

Didact · « **Reply #30 on:** November 25, 2009, 11:48:31 AM »

Lords of the warp! DO WANT!

super0sonic · « **Reply #31 on:** November 26, 2009, 09:57:19 PM »

Quote from: Blackadder on November 23, 2009, 10:26:54 AM

If I had a real Warhound I probably wouldn't have needed to attempt this other than to do it right and then I just would have modified the FW Warhound. I have no plans drawings or even measurements from which to draw. All I have are dozens of images from the internet and the cryptic hint from FW that the model stands 10.5 inches tall.

My greatest fear is that someday I'll have a real Warhound to compare it to and I will find it is monstrously large or ridiculously small.

Judging from the image with the super heavy tank i would say you have the size really dam close.

Jeff · « **Reply #32 on:** November 26, 2009, 10:16:28 PM »

how dare you scratch build something better than forge world!

Top Notch.

Unholy Harbinger · « **Reply #33 on:** November 26, 2009, 10:32:58 PM »

Gah! This makes my converted deathstrike look like something a toddler did with plastercine.

Your tanks are far too good we must ~~destroy them to preserve our own pride~~ encourage more.

Keep up the good work!

Blackadder · « **Reply #34 on:** November 27, 2009, 11:59:48 PM »

I'm sorry that Image venue has seen fit to sully their image storage account with unseemly links. I would rather use photobucket but the band wdth is too narrow and I run out of access too quickly and all my thumbs are inop until the next month. Just delete the offensive link if it annoys you I've never clicked on it myself.

Now to the meat of this post. I took some images of Lucie stepping on a sentinel to demonstrate the flexibility of her toes. No sentinels were damaged because of this scene. The sentinel in question was damaged in the course of a heated round of gaming and was on my workbench for repairs.
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Blackadder · « **Reply #35 on:** November 28, 2009, 10:49:12 PM »

I am so close now I don't want to take the chance and rush the end work. I'm working on the leg armour right now; not too much to show but I should have it close to completed this weekend, er; the leg armour that is. Two millimeters seems a bit too thin and the ankle armour is a real bear. Getting the proportions and angles right and still allowing for the flexibility. This model wasn't really meant to walk or my proportions are off.

Naah! It wasn't meant to walk.

I reject FW's reality and substitute my own,

Blackadder

Blackadder · « **Reply #36 on:** December 08, 2009, 01:12:46 AM »

I took a week off from building because I was becoming too complacent in my work. It's a telltale sign that I have been over saturated and tend to get sloppy but last night I got my groove back and put the finishing touches on the armour i.e. cut the grooves for the panel segments. I first shallow scored the plasticard with my utility knife and then made a few more passes to deepen the scores. The holding the knife at an angle I made furrows on either side of the scored lines and sanded the raised ridges smooth. Then with a razor saw I deepened and straightened the furrows and filed the surface smooth again.

The grooves look about done and the armour as you see it is just clipped in place for now.

EB

Warsmith Tyranus · « **Reply #37 on:** December 08, 2009, 02:17:51 AM »

All I have to say is 'wow'. You've completely given a new definition of scratch building to me.

Blackadder · « **Reply #38 on:** December 15, 2009, 12:53:36 AM »

I've pretty much decided to go with the FW original paint job.

I've seen a lot of colour schemes and I like this one the best. As of right now I've only the void projectors, exhaust stacks, the cable conduit and connectors, the cockpit windows and head armour and a bit more detail on the armament and I'll be ready to paint. I'm hoping to get the void projectors and exhausts completed tomorrow.

Blackadder

skullreken · « **Reply #39 on:** December 15, 2009, 01:04:25 AM »

I had to check that image 3 times to make sue I wasn't seeing things man that is unbelievable

Raksha · « **Reply #40 on:** December 15, 2009, 01:09:10 AM »

Brilliant work.

Who cares if the model is larger or smaller than FW's? If its smaller, its easier to carry, is its larger, its just that much more awesome

Blackadder · « **Reply #41 on:** December 15, 2009, 01:10:05 AM »

Quote from: skullreken on December 15, 2009, 01:04:25 AM

I had to check that image 3 times to make sue I wasn't seeing things man that is unbelievable

No no, that picture is from the FW online catalog. Mine isn't painted yet.

skullreken · « **Reply #42 on:** December 15, 2009, 01:23:19 AM »

Quote from: Blackadder on December 15, 2009, 01:10:05 AM

Quote from: skullreken on December 15, 2009, 01:04:25 AM
I had to check that image 3 times to make sue I wasn't seeing things man that is unbelievable

No no, that picture is from the FW online catalog. Mine isn't painted yet.

Well if your painting skills are half as good as your modelling skills I wouldn't be surprised if you pulled off a paint job just as good as that if not better

Blackadder · « **Reply #43 on:** January 25, 2010, 01:42:31 AM »

Just got my computer back up and running today. I had a big problem with reloading windows and have been virtually off line for the better part of two weeks. Naturally the first thing I checked was my emails. Not very many replies from the various forum I usually frequent. I've done some major revamping of the the head and cockpit and finally made the windows and windshield. I installed the cockpit crew and made them so they are visible though the windows. Not technically accurate as looking at the cockpit layout the crew actually sits below the window sill! That doesn't make sense to me so I changed their position. Perhaps their seats elevate so they can look actually around. Anyway thats my story. My son is still looking for the airbrush. I asked him for it about a week ago so I don't hold out much hope that it's still available. Guess I'll bite the bullet and buy a new one.

Taking some pictures later but really not much to show for such a long hiatus.

Thanks for the interest,

EB

Blackadder · « **Reply #44 on:** January 27, 2010, 11:21:00 AM »

It seems Lucie is finally finished; as far as manufacturing the parts is concerned anyway. All that is left is the final assembly after painting. Thanks to all who showed such patience during the nine months (actually eight because I didn't start in earnest until the middle of April last.)

I did a major revamping of the roof panel on the cockpit because once the brow trim was added the overhang did not look thick enough. I added another millimetre to the thickness which still isn't as much as the original but I think gives the head a bit more sleek overall appearance.

See I'm not slavish in my attempt to copy, (Yeah, Right). My rationale is; this is the Lucius MarkII version.

Anyone who has an original FW product can readily see that I widened the hull on my version and of course faired in the void generator housings into the top engine compartment. I straightened the fore to aft angle on the side of the carapace and lowered the overall height the void generator housing projects above the carapace. These were not mistakes as the changes greatly please me aesthetically. If I were to built a FW 'hound I would attempt to incorporate these amendments into that model as well.

The void shield projectors and the exhaust stacks (Thats the little cylindrical pieces strung on the wire for painting in the foreground.) are finished as well. I still debating whether to put the rivet detail on the greaves. They look so tiny compared to the massiveness of the panels on the original.

I'm using Ambroid thin cement now and I must say its a lot more volatile than Tamiya. It evaporates before I can set the rivets so I have to glue them one at a time whereas with Tamiya I could put a few dots of liquid and set two or three rivets before it dried. A word to the wise "Don't leave the cap loose on the vial of Ambroid overnight or you will have significantly less the next day."

I used the empty Tamiya bottle to store the Ambroid glue as its less prone to tipping and the applicator brush is much better for applying fine detail. The brush is the main reason I stopped using Ambroid years ago.

Any suggestions or critiques will be welcome because I plan to paint this sucker this weekend,

Blackadder

Blackadder · « **Reply #45 on:** February 13, 2010, 10:24:08 PM »

The long anticipated painting has begun and in the main it's coming out as well as I expected. I did a lot of masking the first week and experimenting with my antique airbrush. After a thorough cleaning it was working good as new but the fine spray tip assembly is missing and no local hobby stores support the Badger 350 anymore.

I'm a bit disappointed in the metallic paint on the legs but as everything is only the base coat I should be able to rectify the shininess.

Anyway here she is showing her colours. Please bear in mind this is only the basic paint. The detailing will begin when I get the fine tip assembly.

Blackadder · « **Reply #46 on:** February 22, 2010, 01:18:38 AM »

The yellow is Testors Flat Yellow in those tiny jars which cost over a buck and a half now. I remember when they were a dime a jar??? I don't like water base paint and it's only the base coat. I'm going to wash it out with some shadowing with rust and highlighting with various shades of lighter yellow and orange in hopes of achieving a similar look to the FW offering. The Carapace will be likewise highlighted and a subtle coat of blue to add depth would not be amiss. The metallic paint on the legs and feet was a total mistake and I efforting to remedy that.

Grand Master SeaZan · « **Reply #47 on:** February 26, 2010, 11:14:42 PM »

Your modeling ability is disgustingly good!

Can't wait to see it painted.

Blackadder · « **Reply #48 on:** February 28, 2010, 01:29:50 AM »

A rare glimpse into the Adder's Sanctum Sanctorum that holiest of holies; my work bench. Rarely is it as neat as in these pictures I just cleared it of construction mess and substituted painting mess. I was surprised how much paint I had left from ten years ago and real toxic stuff at that.

Flo-Quil railroad colours remember them.

WARNING Known by the state of California to cause cancer in white mice!!!

Hell! Everything causes cancer in white mice.

Anyhow I got my 'fine' tip assembly for the antique Badger and tried it out today and here is the result. Naturally I didn't practice because what I do first always comes out best and it's all downhill from there so I did the yellow parts mainly because I was scared to do them. I used Testors flat yellow and added red blemishes with ModelMasters British red which is almost a burgundy colour and goes on the yellow in what appears to me a close match to the FW yellow headed Warhound.

Okay so I'm fairly good at modeling but I fairly suck at painting.

Blackadder

Will's on Fire · « **Reply #49 on:** February 28, 2010, 01:42:15 PM »

Looks brilliant so far, really amazing work.

- Will

Blackadder · « **Reply #50 on:** February 28, 2010, 07:52:36 PM »

Thanks,

I just couldn't wait to peel all that masking tape off. I had to see what the damages from over spray were and see how the colours complement each other. Not too bad but a hint of steely blue I think is in order for the carapace and hull. I'm rather pleased with the yellow armor, a few touch ups here and there are needed and that's all. I had to reassemble Lucie to show her at her best; a waste of valuable painting time I know.

Blackadder

Blackadder · « **Reply #51 on:** March 02, 2010, 09:35:40 AM »

Painted the greaves for a color test, I can't decide if they're too blue.

Blackadder

Blackadder · « **Reply #52 on:** March 04, 2010, 12:54:19 AM »

[The images I have of the FW Warhound show in various lights the carapace and hull painted with the same blue to gray camouflage depending on the lighting. I've toned down the spots but I like the concept except for the side skirts which don't work for me

I will be painting the hull and carapace the same colour and pattern and I'm concerned that it will be too busy or too blue. I looks right in the pictures but as you can guess I hesitate to commit as I only have one shot at getting it right.

The FW samples:

As you can see I'm spot on with the greaves. (Groan),

Blackadder

pawl · « **Reply #53 on:** March 04, 2010, 01:16:59 AM »

I would be doing you a huge disservice if I were to formulate a reply based on "that's fething stunning", but I really can't think of any words to better describe what you've managed to achieve thus far. =P

Blackadder · « **Reply #54 on:** March 05, 2010, 12:17:52 AM »

Thanks although I can't see the correlation between the model and a rain water reservoir for livestock; of course my German isn't all it should be but thanks all the same,

The Blackadder

Blackadder · « **Reply #55 on:** March 05, 2010, 10:22:20 PM »

Question, I need to pick the brains of the painting pros on this forum:

Does anyone know the Citadel colour represented by the bronzish hue of the legs on the FW Warhound image posted above?

Is it Brazen Brass?

Thx,

Blackadder

Anubis · « **Reply #56 on:** March 06, 2010, 01:21:09 AM »

To me it looks like boltgun metal washed with devlan mud and some sepie. Probably a bit of a black wash too.
Then boltgun metal reapplied and highlighted with chainmail and/or mithril. Standard job to me.
If it has a bronze in there it would be dwarf bronze, but I'm dubious.
A nice way to get a deeper metallic recess would be to use tin bitz, but personally I would wash it, then go over the washes with your colours (leaving the washed recesses).
Apply some weathering powders (a mix of gritty greys, earthy tans and black sooty ones) and you're onto a winner.

Enderwiggin · « **Reply #57 on:** March 06, 2010, 01:22:17 AM »

I know the project is going well and all, but do try to not double-post Blackadder. There's an edit button on the top right hand corner of your posts to allow you to edit in new information.

Renekton · « **Reply #58 on:** March 06, 2010, 05:53:11 AM »

You can quote me saying that double posting is allowed in the project logs forum.

Enderwiggin · « **Reply #59 on:** March 06, 2010, 06:49:43 AM »

Quote from: Tyrant Chrysaor on March 06, 2010, 05:53:11 AM

You can quote me saying that double posting is allowed in the project logs forum.

As long as we know who to blame.

I just didn't want BA top lose any of his very hard earned karma over something trivial.

Blackadder · « **Reply #60 on:** March 06, 2010, 07:46:27 PM »

Gawd help me I have done the deed! For better or worse in the early hours this morning after a fitful few hours of sleep alas I could put off the painting of the carapace no longer. Armed with all the necessary pigments and thinners; my ancient airbrush cleaned and polished as if it were new, I girded myself, loaded up the base coat and commenced the nefarious act. Damn it looked soooo blue!

Then in a flurry of enthusiasm I cleaned the brush and proceeded to apply the highlighting coat. Working in panic mode for fear of a mistake I did the entire job before the six hour this morning and on the seventh I rested. I must confess I am pleased with the outcome. It looks much better that I had anticipated. Whether it meets with the expectations of my loyal posters is another but It's the best I could do.

Here are the preliminary pictures I may do a bit of touching up before removing the tape.

The emotionally spent Blackadder

Regarding the double posting I see I did this on March 5 but almost 23 hours elapsed between the posts. Doesn't this forum have an auto amend feature?

I'll be more careful in the future.

The abashed Blackadder

Will's on Fire · « **Reply #61 on:** March 06, 2010, 08:19:54 PM »

Looking great.

Keep going!

- Will

Enderwiggin · « **Reply #62 on:** March 07, 2010, 06:17:51 AM »

I like it so far.

You don't need to sleep, just finish this sucker.

Blackadder · « **Reply #63 on:** March 07, 2010, 07:51:23 PM »

Thanks, It appears the carapace painting has been well received and since that is so I'll relate how I did it. Naturally I used an airbrush, in my case a Badger 350. I used the finest tip available for that rather basic airbrush and for the base coat a mixture of Floquil Flat Reefer Blue and Reefer Gray 50% and 50% thinner.

http://www.traintekllc.com/library/Color%20Charts/Floquil_Enamels.pdf

I don't know if the Floquil paints are still available with a volatile spirit base but I had a few jars left from my railroading days. The problem with Floquil is that it really isn't compatible with mineral spirits so you can't store the leftover as it gets gummy in a day or so. You need their special thinner that's not available anymore. I gave the edges and the seams a light coat of the mix and a light misting to the center of the panels where I knew I would be applying the highlighting spots no point of wasting paint. After it was dry I thoroughly cleaned my brush and mixed Model Masters (MM) Blue and Gray with Testors Flat White 1 part to 3 parts to 5 and 50% thinner. Setting the brush to the smallest orifice I could draw paint through I tapped the trigger a couple of times per spot from about three inches from the surface never allowing the surface to really get wet. as soon as I could see a hint of wetness I moved to the other side and did the same to keep both sides symmetrical. It was then just a matter of keeping a hint of the base coat between the spots to achieve this effect which surprisingly looks 3D to me like those 3D computer generated images.

Infinity_Drive · « **Reply #64 on:** March 07, 2010, 09:08:05 PM »

I'm suprised to be the first one to ask this, but do you do commisions?

BB100

pawl · « **Reply #65 on:** March 07, 2010, 10:29:52 PM »

Quote from: Blackadder on March 05, 2010, 12:17:52 AM

Thanks although I can't see the correlation between the model and a rain water reservoir for livestock; of course my German isn't all it should be but thanks all the same,

The Blackadder

If that was aimed at me, maybe you misunderstood slightly - I don't speak German at all. =P
'fething' is just a replacement word for f**king, often used in the 40k books. =P

(also, as an aside, have the rules been tightened up re; swearing since I was last here?)

Blackadder · « **Reply #66 on:** March 07, 2010, 10:33:09 PM »

Quote from: big_ben100 on March 07, 2010, 09:08:05 PM

I'm suprised to be the first one to ask this, but do you do commisions?

BB100

If you think my work is sufficiently good to warrant it I would love to do painting commissions but I would need input from the commissioner as to what he/she wanted specifically and I would only want to paint the large models i.e. Titans, Baneblades etc. I would also like to assemble the model as it wouldn't do to paint a poorly assembled model.

Let me be clear on the above statement. I would accept painting commissions but making another Lucius Pattern Warhound is right out,

The Blackadder no glutton for punishment he,

EB

Blackadder · « **Reply #67 on:** March 07, 2010, 10:38:25 PM »

Quote from: pawl on March 07, 2010, 10:29:52 PM

Quote from: Blackadder on March 05, 2010, 12:17:52 AM
Thanks although I can't see the correlation between the model and a rain water reservoir for livestock; of course my German isn't all it should be but thanks all the same,

The Blackadder

If that was aimed at me, maybe you misunderstood slightly - I don't speak German at all. =P
'fething' is just a replacement word for f**king, often used in the 40k books. =P

(also, as an aside, have the rules been tightened up re; swearing since I was last here?)

I understood but being unfamiliar with the term I googled it and found that alternative meaning and I just couldn't resist.

The scurrilous wag Blackadder

Blackadder · « **Reply #68 on:** March 09, 2010, 09:43:26 PM »

Thanks for all the input about the bronze paint; I made a concoction of tinbitz and desert yellow, thinned it with windshield washer fluid, and brushed it on with a fan blender. This gave a dull metallic sheen to the legs slightly lighter than tinbitz alone. then I dry brushed on some powdered copper and handrubbed it into the paint which highlighted the edges. I then dry brushed on some powdered aluminum onto the hydraulic pistons and gimbals. You've got to be careful using powdered metals as some are toxic such as aluminum which may or may not be a major contributor to Alzhimer's condition..... where was I ..... oh yeah; I still have to weather the legs a bit more as they look too perfect. I'll probably do that with a ocher and a gray wash. I need to experiment.

I'm doing the crenelated trim on the carapace at the moment; I initially painted it gunmetal but I scraped it off, it looked too uniform.

I've decided to hand rub in powdered graphite which gives me just the effect I'm looking for. Graphite is at least cheap, I get it by scraping pencil lead. Rubbed in graphite on the crenelations. I don't know if the camera can pick up the subtle difference. It's much more apparent to the eye.

You can't beat God for intelligent design.

EB

Blackadder · « **Reply #69 on:** March 11, 2010, 09:03:34 PM »

At long last Lucie could stand on her own without extremely judicious balancing. I cut two holes into her generator housings that morning and installed about two ounces of lead. Hastily assembling her and assuming a none too flattering pose (thats some old paint rags sticking out the back to keep the lead plates in place.) I snapped some pictures of a dynamic pose the first ever where she didn't have to have both feet firmly planted on the ground.

Not as blue as this flash image seems, there must be some highly reflective blue components in the pigment

An oddly cute puppy pose for the toddler Lucie. Not at all a menacing war machine look.

a birds eye view of romping, stomping, death hell and distruction.

Lucie standing on the balls of her feet for the first time. Glorious!!!

A clear top view shot, but I need a ladder.

Lucie looking strangely knock kneed when a gimbal shifted but she didn't topple.

Aun · « **Reply #70 on:** March 11, 2010, 09:26:49 PM »

wow, thats one of the best scratch builds I've ever seen for a Warhound, you should be very proud of yourself.

Taldaneth · « **Reply #71 on:** March 11, 2010, 09:42:52 PM »

It's...It's glorious!

Pardon me while I drool over your photos for a while.

Anubis · « **Reply #72 on:** March 12, 2010, 12:05:55 AM »

I like the bronzed effect you've achieved so far. I think some edging highlights of chainmail (or even as dull as boltgun metal) would really bring it all out without making it overly metallic.
Looking wicked so far though man.

Will's on Fire · « **Reply #73 on:** March 12, 2010, 05:31:34 PM »

That is brilliant.

You better get more karma

for this now.

- Will

Mpori Ebatoi · « **Reply #74 on:** March 31, 2010, 08:43:03 PM »

Quote from: Blackadder on November 22, 2009, 09:40:29 AM

It was not my intent to impress so much as to demonstrate the building procedure. I hope I have not given the impression of self-aggrandizement.

The main intent of this thread is to share construction techniques as much as my poor photo documentation will allow. I work in flurries where much is done before I realize, "Hey I've gotta take some pictures!" Hence the sporadic documentation.

EB

I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling that way... kudos for your project! BTW, Have you ever consider to build a Knight? I think you could use your skills to create a model that it isn't done yet... anyway thanks for sharing!

Chtzi dua ryu ruo · « **Reply #75 on:** April 01, 2010, 06:19:42 AM »

Make me a tau walker....

Pleeeeeeease?

greendragon4444 · « **Reply #76 on:** April 01, 2010, 02:08:50 PM »

That is simply amazing!

Blackadder · « **Reply #77 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:01:12 PM »

Quote from: Mpori Ebatoi on March 31, 2010, 08:43:03 PM

Quote from: Blackadder on November 22, 2009, 09:40:29 AM
It was not my intent to impress so much as to demonstrate the building procedure. I hope I have not given the impression of self-aggrandizement.

The main intent of this thread is to share construction techniques as much as my poor photo documentation will allow. I work in flurries where much is done before I realize, "Hey I've gotta take some pictures!" Hence the sporadic documentation.

EB

I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling that way... kudos for your project! BTW, Have you ever consider to build a Knight? I think you could use your skills to create a model that it isn't done yet... anyway thanks for sharing!

What's a 'Knight'

Picture please.

I have to be grabbed by a model. Many of the FW models especially the newer ones don't have the panache of say the Lucius Pattern Warhound or the Lucius Pattern Baneblade FW of course the GW version need not apply a travesty if there ever was one and it killed the value of the resin model.

If a model doesn't pique my interest I wouldn't be able to make it. If you have any pictures of this "knight" please post them.

THx,

EB

Enderwiggin · « **Reply #78 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:36:18 PM »

Hmm, Knights are pretty much human micro titan rip-offs of the Eldar walkers.

They're slightly controversial about what place they really hold, or how powerful they are, but they were featured very prominently in the Mechanicum book.

Anubis · « **Reply #79 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:38:56 PM »

Knights are smaller 'titan' like vehicles, but piloted by a single person. There are many variants, and even Eldar had them too.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/40k%20knights/cptmcmeaty/Vostroyans/Knight.jpg

this next one has a few in the thread...

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/eldar_knights_3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D145692%26page%3D5&usg=__BHxsvxVO2PYkSpncGU0WEfmMUho=&h=414&w=628&sz=39&hl=en&start=76&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Tf153jD7Rj5D5M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3D40k%2Bknights%26start%3D63%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Den%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1

They aren't controversial as to their uses... they are scouts and firebases ahead of and in support of the titan legions. They featured heavily in Adeptus Titanicus/Space Marine/Epic and if you read the novel 'Mechanicum' you will see how they were used in the Heresy. Btw Mechanicum is a very good book anyway, regardless if you have read the others in the horus heresy series.

Mpori Ebatoi · « **Reply #80 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:41:10 PM »

Quote from: Blackadder on April 03, 2010, 06:01:12 PM

Quote from: Mpori Ebatoi on March 31, 2010, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Blackadder on November 22, 2009, 09:40:29 AM
It was not my intent to impress so much as to demonstrate the building procedure. I hope I have not given the impression of self-aggrandizement.

The main intent of this thread is to share construction techniques as much as my poor photo documentation will allow. I work in flurries where much is done before I realize, "Hey I've gotta take some pictures!" Hence the sporadic documentation.

EB

I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling that way... kudos for your project! BTW, Have you ever consider to build a Knight? I think you could use your skills to create a model that it isn't done yet... anyway thanks for sharing!

What's a 'Knight' Picture please.

I have to be grabbed by a model. Many of the FW models especially the newer ones don't have the panache of say the Lucius Pattern Warhound or the Lucius Pattern Baneblade FW of course the GW version need not apply a travesty if there ever was one and it killed the value of the resin model.

If a model doesn't pique my interest I wouldn't be able to make it. If you have any pictures of this "knight" please post them.

THx,

EB

Hi there!

You can find some pics in the Epic book Titan Legions and also, I think, there´s an issue of the defunct firebase magazine covering the Knights (this mag you can find it on warseer). Just as you will see in the Epic book there are decades between the current line of design (baroque-sturdy) from those in the past (rather pretty bulkier and fun), so I wouldn't take those models and illustration for nothing but inspiration (men... you have to check what was the "warhound" as per this book).

And again congratulations for your model! I wonder how much time it did take you until the current phase? You see tortoises are quicksilver by my side.

Blackadder · « **Reply #81 on:** April 17, 2010, 10:37:11 PM »

BFG's?

Someone asked for Lucie in a battlefield scene with figures for comparison. Well I repainted the old Battleboard and set up Lucie and the tanks etc. but my son must have all his armies with him at school; the only stuff left was pretty pitiful so heres Lucie and company advancing on some foe who is in for a very bad day.

Okay so I suck at picture taking,

EB

Scythican · « **Reply #82 on:** April 18, 2010, 02:30:46 AM »

For the most part, you do suck at picture taking. But that last pic that is upclose and personal looks awesome. Way to show off the detail you put into that beast.

As for the other pictures...I think you like Baneblades more...

Dragonborn Seth · « **Reply #83 on:** April 18, 2010, 02:38:10 AM »

Oh my god!

It doesn't look scratch built in the least! Bravo! And fantastic paint job too!

corsairmarks · « **Reply #84 on:** April 18, 2010, 04:24:16 AM »

I've been silently watching this for some time. Excellent work, your titan is amazing!

Also, I have to ask. Is that sentinel converted from, say, a Star Wars AT-ST model with some Lasguns attached? Or is it scratch-built also? Or is it converted from something else?

Blackadder · « **Reply #85 on:** April 19, 2010, 12:17:04 AM »

Quote from: corsairmarks on April 18, 2010, 04:24:16 AM

I've been silently watching this for some time. Excellent work, your titan is amazing!

Also, I have to ask. Is that sentinel converted from, say, a Star Wars AT-ST model with some Lasguns attached? Or is it scratch-built also? Or is it converted from something else?

I never knew what they were other than they were not Starwars vehicles but a quick web search revealed they are:

F021 Raptor Biped Walker turret - metal and resin kit

F022 Nemesis Biped Walker turret - metal and resin kit

From Grendel 25mm Scenics

HTh,

EB

big mek metalgutz · « **Reply #86 on:** April 19, 2010, 03:33:09 AM »

that is the most epic thing ever. do you think you could scratch-build an angry marines titan?

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