Second Sphere

I agree with you, with better options out there flesh hounds have been phased out of my Khornate daemons list. Karanak is decent in a unit of Bloodcrushers.

But yes, they seem to be tie up unit. But hell chaos furies can do that job cheaper

I agree with most of the OPs opinions, but i think Kharn has a better chance of getting his points back. Typhus does let you have plague marines are troops and plauge zombies, but Kharn gets you Berzerkers has troop which isn't a bad alternative. Kharn can also take out tanks with relative ease. He is also a steal at only 160pts. If hes not the best choice, he comes in a close 2nd. Of course i might be bias.

I was going to say much the same; the Sigil of Corruption is an optional upgrade, not something you get just for being a Chaos Lord.

Having played since early-mid Third Edition, I do not like letting Iron Warriors have four Heavy Support choices. It was a stupid idea when GW did it, and I still don't think it's particularly well balanced now.

Yeah i understand that reaction, but there isn't a special rule that screams siege specialist that's useful. I guess i could make it a bit more restrictive. Something like, "  In a primary detachment that includes Honsou, one maulerfiend does not count towards a heavy support choice" and "Warpsmiths get to re roll Master of Mechanisms rolls"

What they did back in the day was make you drop 2 fast attack for that extra HS. That did not balance it as fast attack was poor then and HS was great. If you do that now it will easily balance your character because FA is by FAR the best choice in the chaos codex.

That might work too     

A few more touch ups on Zso Sahaal were made. Next is the Iron Warriors character. Out of all the of the Iron Warrior character (and there is a ton of them) I think Honsou had the most complete fuff around him. Although i was tempted to make Chengrel (a chaos dreadnaught). Maybe another day.

FLUFF: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Honsou#.UQYX_GeFk4o
Honsou the Half Breed PTS: 185
WS  BS  S  T  W  I  A   LD   Sv
  6    5    5   4   3  5  3   10   3+

Unit Type: Infantry (Character)

Wargear: Power Armour, Combi-Bolter, Frag and Krak Grenades, Aura of Dark Glory

Warlord Trait: Exalted Champion

Special Rules: Champion of Chaos, Independent Character, Half Breed, Arm of Living Metal

WarSmith:  In a primary detachment that includes Honsou, Maulerfiends can be taken as Elites as well as Heavy support. Also, Warpsmiths get to re roll Master of Mechanisms rolls

Half Breed: Honsou has Preferred Enemy: Imperial Fists and Stubborn

Arm of Living Metal: Honsou has +1 Strength(included already) and Feel No Pain(5+)

Chaos Artefact: Black Axe of Scorn: Range - S:+1 AP: 2 Type Melee, Daemon Weapon, Scorn
Scorn: When Honsou is in a Challenge with another warlord, we may choose to re roll the number of attacks gain through the daemon weapon rule, the 2nd result is the final result 

*Any detachment that includes Darnath Lysander is an Imperial Fists army

So I thought i could make traitor character for the legions that don't have them (Night Lords, Iron Warriors, Word Bearers Alpha Legion). So first i'm going to take a stab at the Night Lords. More will come later.


FLUFF: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Zso_Sahaal#.UQNwsmeFk4o
Zso Sahaal The Talonmaster PTS:165
WS  BS  S  T  W  I  A   LD   Sv
  6    5   4  4    3    5   4   10   3+

Unit Type: Jump Infantry (Character)

Wargear: Power Armour, Jump pack, Frag and Krak Grenades

Warlord Trait: You can either choose between Lord of Terror or Night Attacker

Special Rules:Champion of Chaos, Fearless, Independent Character, Stealth, Without Faith, Corona Nox and Veterans of the Long War

Lord of the Raptors: In a primary detachment that includes Zso, Raptors are Troops

Without Faith: In a detachment that includes Zso, units cannot pick a mark of chaos nor can units with marks already in there profile can be chosen 

Chaos Artefact: Talons of the Master: Is a pair of Lightning claws with each with the following profile Range: - S: User AP: 3 Type: Melee, Shred, Specialist Weapon, Master Crafted 

Corona Nox:Zso Sahaal gains a 4+ invulnerable save. In addition Infantry, Jump Infantry an bikes in a detachment that includes Zso Sahaal can gain the Stealth special rule for 25pts per unit.

Here come they Fury!


Lord Thor Bloodfury, my juggernaunt lord

Death from Above!

Yup, my heldrake came home today. Surprisingly a easy build. The model has grown on me, the first time a saw it i didn't like it. I still don't like the caboose. Hopefully he'll get painted next weekend.

Ok so i got this idea from somewhere, of using Necrons with an assault army. Basically since couple of the Necron characters can change the game into nightfight rules, and this helps assault armies, so i can up with this list.

CHAOS
Kharn
1X8 Khorne Berzerkers with Aspiring Champion with Powerfist. All are mounted in a Rhino with Dirge Caster and extra armour
1X8 KHorne Berzerkers with Aspiring Chmapion with Powerfist. All have Veterans of the Long War.  All are mounted in a Rhino with Dirge Caster and extra armour
Heldrake with baleflamer

NECRONS
Imotekh the Storm Lord
10 Necron Warriors mounted in a Night Scythe   
10 Necron Warriors mounted in a Night Scythe   

ARMY TOTAL: 1497pts

So Imotekh cause nightfight, which basically give the transports the cover of darkness to get where they need to be.  Now there are a few options. The first one would be to sub out one of the warrior squads with more berzerkers. More assault power for less shooting power. Option number 2 would be to replace Imotekh with an Overlord and Cryptek with solar pulse. The Overlord/Cryptek combo is cheaper than the storm lord, but i would only get nightfight for one turn.

So what do you all think?