I present to you, the Wraithknight.
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Also, the new codex. And supplement.
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I just...
Yeah, Knight and Riptide.
This is going to be fun :)
Best,
-BT
So that's the Dreadknight, the Cataclysm, and now the Wraithknight. Monstrous Creatures for all?
Wait, a supplement? Awesome. If Eldar get them, then IG will too, eventually.
Quote from: Railgun Convention on May 19, 2013, 03:31:43 PM
So that's the Dreadknight, the Cataclysm, and now the Wraithknight. Monstrous Creatures for all?
In fairness, Eldar already had some MCs.
The trygon, the dreadknight, the riptide.....
I know, I know, the rule of cool but is one of the new concept designers like 13 or something? Are we all going to cop a 5" tall model?
(yes, the trygon existed before but I don't think it needed to be in this level of play. Than again 6th edition seems to be making a lot of expansions reduntant)
Quote from: salamut2202 on May 20, 2013, 02:57:05 AM
I know, I know, the rule of cool but is one of the new concept designers like 13 or something? Are we all going to cop a 5" tall model?
I think what you just did there was name the target market for GW these days. :P
- Will
Ok, is it only me who cant see any links up there?
Ok, that looks worrying. . .
But the direction that GW are taking recently implies that bigger is awesomer. :P
So... the fluff for it is that an eldar pilot is stuck in there with the spirit of it's dead twin? Ignoring the the creepiness behind that, the logistics behind it are just crazy.
Can't decide how I feel about this to be honest. Looks a bit too much like a toy/action figure (rich coming from a 40k fan I know...). It might grow on me, maybe after I've seen some different colour schemes on the thing.
Quote from: salamut2202 on May 20, 2013, 01:37:07 PM
But the direction that GW are taking recently implies that bigger is awesomer. :P
Well convincing people of that seems to have been their prime goal for some time. Bigger models = bigger bucks!
Quote from: Deraj on May 20, 2013, 02:53:07 PMSo... the fluff for it is that an eldar pilot is stuck in there with the spirit of it's dead twin? Ignoring the the creepiness behind that, the logistics behind it are just crazy.
...This is just silly.
A poor model, with a questionable narrative underpinning it in my view.
It looks too Tau like for my tastes, so I won't be buying it. It's great news for my bank balance though, so I'm not complaining.
Hey guys.
I know this is News and Rumours, and that the whole point of it is to share upcoming models, but with the recent issues that Bell of Lost Souls and Faeit212 had recently for doing the same thing I've had to delete the posts with pictures from an upcoming White Dwarf, because I sure as heck don't want the Banhammer of GW coming down on us here at 2S.
I really am sorry about this.
Quote from: Masked Thespian on May 20, 2013, 05:25:48 PM
Hey guys.
I know this is News and Rumours, and that the whole point of it is to share upcoming models, but with the recent issues that Bell of Lost Souls and Faeit212 had recently for doing the same thing I've had to delete the posts with pictures from an upcoming White Dwarf, because I sure as heck don't want the Banhammer of GW coming down on us here at 2S.
I really am sorry about this.
I don't mind, you're just doing your job.
At least you couldn't see the pics in the first place :P
Quote from: Begel Dverl on May 21, 2013, 02:17:14 AM
Quote from: Masked Thespian on May 20, 2013, 05:25:48 PM
Hey guys.
I know this is News and Rumours, and that the whole point of it is to share upcoming models, but with the recent issues that Bell of Lost Souls and Faeit212 had recently for doing the same thing I've had to delete the posts with pictures from an upcoming White Dwarf, because I sure as heck don't want the Banhammer of GW coming down on us here at 2S.
I really am sorry about this.
I don't mind, you're just doing your job.
At least you couldn't see the pics in the first place :P
I seen it on the bols sight. It looks like it has a pot belly. I don't understand the need for the model due to wraithlords really. Keeping in mind with T7 Daemons and T8 Wraithlords. I am gusing it will be toughness 8, strength 10, with a 3 plus and a +5 cover save as my wag.
Just been on the pins of war and saw a size comparison of the Wraithknight in an Eldar army. It makes a wraithlord look like an eldar guardiand standing next to a wraithlord. I would say 2x bigger than a wraithlord, but it looks almost 3x bigger.
It's fair to say it's big. When standing next to the flyer stem a flyer flying at that level would hit I.. if you are looking for a moving cover save for your flyers this thing is it.
I would post pictures or a link, but MT scares me.
Well here's a link they will let us post, Eldar up for Advance Order;
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCatsLarge.jsp?catId=cat440160a&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k
First thing I notice, Dire Avengers now come in a box of 5 for over £20. That just seems ridiculous.
The flyer kit looks okay, plastic wraithguard are a welcome sight and the best model of all in my opinion is the new Farseer.
The Knight is a scaled down Revenant :P though somehow Armoured Core got its hands on it.
So far, the only thing GW have done right is bring back Bike Squadrons for £20, and make Wraithguard Plastic and in a boxset for £30.
Is anyone seriously thinking about staying with GW after this?
£70?
Do they just arbitrarily slap prices on things and assume people won't notice?
I saw an article on Bell of Lost Souls (linky (http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/05/40k-is-apocalypse-merging-with-6th.html)) about 6th edition making expansions redundant. It is in that context which I feel for the wraith knight. It is the eldar stompa.
Why the hell they didn't just make the Nightwing plastic I will never know... that flyer is ugly.
I think this is where the line is drawn; I'm out. I don't even see myself buying the book as reference material.
Quote from: Wargamer on May 25, 2013, 02:57:57 PM
Why the hell they didn't just make the Nightwing plastic I will never know... that flyer is ugly.
I think this is where the line is drawn; I'm out. I don't even see myself buying the book as reference material.
Yeah, forget this, let's go play Dystopian Wars.
Quote from: Wargamer on May 25, 2013, 02:57:57 PM
Why the hell they didn't just make the Nightwing plastic I will never know... that flyer is ugly.
I like it, reminds me a bit of a klingon ship though.
Anyone else notice that you can have an Exarch Flyer? :P
And the way you differentiate the two models is a single piece on tp of the model ::)
Can't agree with the Klingon Warship comparison. :-\
I like how the Rangers have a Special character now, as most of the other non-vehicle units did.
Anyone have theories to why Dire Avengers are now double the £/$ cost as before?
Quote from: Narric on May 26, 2013, 10:22:20 AM
Anyone else notice that you can have an Exarch Flyer? :P
And the way you differentiate the two models is a single piece on tp of the model ::)
Any possibility of pointing that difference to me? I must be blind.
I think its looking like a good release.
The wraithknight is actually a serious bargain, the smaller FW eldar titan is only 25% bigger than this thing yet its 3 times the cost with less weapon options. Compared to say a wraithlord which is about half the cost of this thing your getting way more than double the model, the wraithlord is knee height on it.
Wraithguard have dropped £25 from a unit of 10 and your getting extra options.
The only thing that is really bad are the fact dire avengers are so expensive.
Quote from: salamut2202 on May 26, 2013, 10:53:20 AM
Quote from: Narric on May 26, 2013, 10:22:20 AM
Anyone else notice that you can have an Exarch Flyer? :P
And the way you differentiate the two models is a single piece on tp of the model ::)
Any possibility of pointing that difference to me? I must be blind.
Maybe I shouldn't have had them on different lines :P
First I'm noting that a Vehicle can be given a similar title to a squad leader (as only in Spearhead did Squadron leaders really get used), and then went on to point out the stupidity of making the only visual difference between the two statlines was swapping one piece of a model. This is the kind of logic behind Infantry, not vehicles. Thats all I was trying to say.
Its a bit love and hate with this release for me.
I love the plastic wraithguard, they are big, they are awesome sculpts with plenty of character, and a unit is cheaper than before. May crank up the wraithwall army again when i get some free time in a month or two ;D I reckon with the aid of an airbrush, even i could paint a unit in less than a month :P
New farseer by Jess Goodwin is awesome, great pose and detail, as is the ranger special character - love the pose, very dynamic - kind of reminds me of the Infinity snipers.
On the other hand, i hate the Wraithseer. Static pose, weird palm gem thing covering up how the sculptor cant sculpt hands, should have let jess do it! Ill be getting the farseer and sticking a wraithseer head on it!
Also dont like the price of that codex! £30? That's taking the tuk'me, and i am usually one of those who doesnt complain about the prices! Anyone else remember when a dex was £10? A generous mean inflation of 3.2% over 12 years makes that £10 dex from 12 years ago, now £14.50 ... not £30 at a 200% higher price...
Puts me off buying it since id use it mainly for art and background.
Kind of impartial on the WraithKnight, i think with some conversion work, there could be some great minis made with the kit.
On the whole, im glad elder are getting new minis. Cant wait to see what the next wave of releases will be
In fairness to the codex price, the quality of the books is FAR superior now.
Quote from: The Man They Call Jayne on May 27, 2013, 10:57:50 AM
In fairness to the codex price, the quality of the books is FAR superior now.
I've heard that the newer Codexi are prone to warping.
Here is what i'm talking about:
http://h2lat40k.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/codex-warp.html
Considering the only Codex I've had to either replace with the same book is Tau +, I don't want a £30 to start breaking as soon as I take the film off it.
+ I had to replace my Tau Codex becuase it was litterally falling apart at the seems. It lasted near four times as long as the SMurf Codex, and was still quite usuable despite falling apart. It was replaced because whenever i took it to my LGS, I felt embarassingly unprofessional in my gaming and hobby in general.
My CSM and Tau are both fine. But I keep mine in a rule bag between other books anyway.
I'm happy, because there's nothing I want bar the codex, so I'll be saving plenty of money. The most disturbing thing about the price changes, in my view, is that five Dire Avengers are now the same cost as ten used to be in the old pack.
The pre-order pictures really don't inspire me. The Farseer is good, but still can't beat the original model from 1990, so I'll stick to using that, the Spiritseer's pose is terrible, the Wraithknight still looks awful, and I don't field Wraithguard, so I've no need of those. All great news for my bank balance :).
The only good thing of the release, in my humble opinion, would be the Wraithlord.
The only thing stopping me from actually getting one at the store is that $115 price-tag :'(
Holy crap, I bought mine for like $45, and that was too much, in my opinion!
Quote from: Arkitek on May 29, 2013, 04:20:00 AM
Holy crap, I bought mine for like $45, and that was too much, in my opinion!
He meant the Wraithknight, not Wraithlord. I don't believe you managed to get one of the former for $45. (If you did I want one too!)
I generally like the new releases.
- Illic Nightspear is going to inspire me to paint a whole squad of pathfinders to go with him.
- New wraithguard look excellent and I think they're even big enough to magnetize their options.
- Plastic Farseer is really nice and I'm imagining all sorts of conversion opportunities.
- At first I thought the nose of the Wraithfighter/Crimson Hunter ruined it because it's a break from the pincer-like shape the other Eldar fliers have but I've changed my mind. I think it's more original and gives the Eldar fighter a more different look to the Razorwing than it might otherwise have had. I don't think I like the idea behind the Wraithfighter but I do like the Crimson Hunter as a new Aspect.
- Wraithknight I'd prefer just to have the Revenant Titan in apocalypse and leave this giant out of standard 40k but I think it's an awesome model.
I too don't think the
wraithseerspiritseer is a particularly good sculpt. I hadn't had a good think about the hand until Thantos pointed it out but I'd noticed the solid robes. I know you shouldn't be able to see that unless you're looking at the model from underneath but I think it's the sort of thing you'd have expected with an old metal cast where the technology had trouble with too many ins and outs on a model.
Must say I'm also disappointed not to see new Spiders and Jetbikes... yet....
BUT I'm happy... I've been playing Eldar since the last Codex was released and I'm excited to see how the new one turns out.
People keep referring to a new Wraithseer model... Are they referring to the Spiritseer (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=&prodId=prod2060064a)?
Because the only Wraithseer I'm aware of is this (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar/ELDAR-WRAITHSEER.html) model from Forgeworld.
I think you know the answer to that question - Yes.
For what it's worth, I think the new aircraft are quite pretty. Wasn't going to get one (people I know don't usually play with flyers) but it was the day after pay day and the pic on the box looked good! The Hemlock looks really nice photo-wise (I think it's the single upright fin that does it) but after messing about with blu-tac I went for the Hunter. The twin fins just grew on me! Not massively sure about the secondary fins (can I still call them canards in that location?) just behind the cockpit but looking at it nose-on it... kinda works. Really easy to put together too.
If I was going to complain I'd say that the wings are a little *too* angled downward, both from an aesthetic and practical view (transport and storage - i know a guy who takes a scratch-built Bird of Prey to modelling shows, I'll have to ask how he manages!) maybe someone more talented than I am could play with a heat gun and sort that out, but apart from that, I like it; painting it will be like going back to Airfix! :)