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3 1850 Point Eldar lists, which to use?

Started by Arguleon-veq, November 13, 2013, 12:03:48 PM

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Arguleon-veq

With Skyshields now getting banned fairly often and my inability to roll Fortune even with a pair of Farseers in more than half my games meaning I cant trust a Bike Council I am left with some choices to make with regards to my regular Eldar list. Here are the 3 list options, I have no idea what will work best;

1
Farseer; Bike, Spear, Mantle
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
10 Guardians;

Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
3 Bikes;
3 Bikes;
Wraithknight;
Wraithknight;
Wraithknight;


3 Knights, 4 Serpents and 3 very annoying scoring/contesting units in the Bikes and Mantle Seer. Without the Skyshield though are 4 Serpents really durable enough? [I would have to buy a Wraithknight]

2
Spirit Seer;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;

Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter, Mantle
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter, Mantle
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter, Mantle
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter, Mantle
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wraithknight;
Wraithknight;


So I lose a Knight and the Bikes for 2 extra Serpents, I also lose the major psychic support from the Mantle Seer but the Spiritseer can give one of my Serpents Conceal. [I would have to buy 2 Serpents]

3
Spirit Seer;
Spirit Seer;
5 Wraithguard;
5 Wraithguard;
5 Wraithguard;
5 Wraithguard;

Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wraithknight;
Wraithknight;


Less of everything but it has much more durable scoring and all those Wraithcannons make a real mess of enemy monsters and tanks, also two Spiritseers means that I can have 2 concealed Serpents which should make those two virtually unkillable. [I would have to buy 10 Wraithguard]

In terms of what I would need to buy for each list none of it is a problem really as it would cost pretty much the same amount of money to complete any of these lists so its down to how well each list would do really.

So which do you think?
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Quote from: Arguleon-veq on November 13, 2013, 12:03:48 PM
With Skyshields now getting banned fairly often and my inability to roll Fortune even with a pair of Farseers in more than half my games meaning I cant trust a Bike Council I am left with some choices to make with regards to my regular Eldar list. Here are the 3 list options, I have no idea what will work best;

1
Farseer; Bike, Spear, Mantle
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
10 Guardians;

Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
3 Bikes;
3 Bikes;
Wraithknight;
Wraithknight;
Wraithknight;


3 Knights, 4 Serpents and 3 very annoying scoring/contesting units in the Bikes and Mantle Seer. Without the Skyshield though are 4 Serpents really durable enough? [I would have to buy a Wraithknight]

2
Spirit Seer;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;
5 Avengers;

Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter, Mantle
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter, Mantle
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter, Mantle
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter, Mantle
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wraithknight;
Wraithknight;


So I lose a Knight and the Bikes for 2 extra Serpents, I also lose the major psychic support from the Mantle Seer but the Spiritseer can give one of my Serpents Conceal. [I would have to buy 2 Serpents]

3
Spirit Seer;
Spirit Seer;
5 Wraithguard;
5 Wraithguard;
5 Wraithguard;
5 Wraithguard;

Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wave Serpent; Cannon, Holo, Scatter
Wraithknight;
Wraithknight;


Less of everything but it has much more durable scoring and all those Wraithcannons make a real mess of enemy monsters and tanks, also two Spiritseers means that I can have 2 concealed Serpents which should make those two virtually unkillable. [I would have to buy 10 Wraithguard]

In terms of what I would need to buy for each list none of it is a problem really as it would cost pretty much the same amount of money to complete any of these lists so its down to how well each list would do really.

So which do you think?

Have you consider taking elements from each list? Maybe two of the Wraithguard, 2 of the Avengers and 2 of the bikes, and a spiritseer with some Wraithknights.