6th Edition WTFs?

[Scout Sergeant Mkoll]

Well just get a large horde, enough S4+ shots and you can glance any flyer out of the sky.

Tell me again how S4 can bring down a Stormraven without your opponent being a complete retard? Actually, aren't the festering turds that are Vendettas AV12 too?

Flyers are absurd as things stand. Yes, ok, there's the defence lines but a) I'm willing to bet they're quite expensive cashwise and b) I should not have to gear my list on the off chance that my opponent has been enough of a douche to bring a flyer without telling me.

If they're kept in hover mode, or whatever it's called where they're a Fast Skimmer then fine, but until Skyfire is a lot more common Flyers are horrendously broken. Especially for the cost of some of them.

[InsaneTD]

Yeah, I have to agree with Mkoll on this. It really sucks for Tau. No AA and I  really  don't want to have to rely on glancing hits to kill flyers.

[Pottsey]

Walker shooting took a bit of a nerf.  Before, you could unload with everything, no problem, no matter how far you moved (ordnance being the only exception).  Now, if you move, only one is fully effective, the rest are Snap-Fired.

Could we be seeing more one-handed Dreadnoughts coming out?  Or will they be platforms only?

Twin-Linked Snap-Fire will not take you very far...

There is no nerf to walker shooting that I can see. Walkers/dreads are just like before you can move and fire everything. Walkers have relentless and move like infantry only with the added rule that they can fire all weapons.  So walkers always count as stationary for firing weapons even when they have moved just like relentless infantry.

[Charistoph]

Walker shooting took a bit of a nerf.  Before, you could unload with everything, no problem, no matter how far you moved (ordnance being the only exception).  Now, if you move, only one is fully effective, the rest are Snap-Fired.

Could we be seeing more one-handed Dreadnoughts coming out?  Or will they be platforms only?

Twin-Linked Snap-Fire will not take you very far...

There is no nerf to walker shooting that I can see. Walkers/dreads are just like before you can move and fire everything. Walkers have relentless and move like infantry only with the added rule that they can fire all weapons.  So walkers always count as stationary for firing weapons even when they have moved just like relentless infantry.

They MOVE like Infantry, but still SHOOT like Vehicles.  Remember, all vehicles are Relentless, not just Walkers.

[El ShasOcho]

The real issue is things like valkyries and Storm Ravens that came before 6th was almost here. The high AV fliers are incredibly difficult to take out without incredible luck, at least until they come down to hover. I hope that coming codices will provide enough anti-air to at least shift the meta away from flier heavy so some older codices will not be totally screwed.

[Pottsey]

Walker shooting took a bit of a nerf.  Before, you could unload with everything, no problem, no matter how far you moved (ordnance being the only exception).  Now, if you move, only one is fully effective, the rest are Snap-Fired.

Could we be seeing more one-handed Dreadnoughts coming out?  Or will they be platforms only?

Twin-Linked Snap-Fire will not take you very far...

There is no nerf to walker shooting that I can see. Walkers/dreads are just like before you can move and fire everything. Walkers have relentless and move like infantry only with the added rule that they can fire all weapons.  So walkers always count as stationary for firing weapons even when they have moved just like relentless infantry.

They MOVE like Infantry, but still SHOOT like Vehicles.  Remember, all vehicles are Relentless, not just Walkers.

Only vehicle

[Tom]

Walker shooting took a bit of a nerf.  Before, you could unload with everything, no problem, no matter how far you moved (ordnance being the only exception).  Now, if you move, only one is fully effective, the rest are Snap-Fired.

Could we be seeing more one-handed Dreadnoughts coming out?  Or will they be platforms only?

Twin-Linked Snap-Fire will not take you very far...

There is no nerf to walker shooting that I can see. Walkers/dreads are just like before you can move and fire everything. Walkers have relentless and move like infantry only with the added rule that they can fire all weapons.  So walkers always count as stationary for firing weapons even when they have moved just like relentless infantry.

They MOVE like Infantry, but still SHOOT like Vehicles.  Remember, all vehicles are Relentless, not just Walkers.

Only vehicle

[Charistoph]

Walker shooting took a bit of a nerf.  Before, you could unload with everything, no problem, no matter how far you moved (ordnance being the only exception).  Now, if you move, only one is fully effective, the rest are Snap-Fired.

Could we be seeing more one-handed Dreadnoughts coming out?  Or will they be platforms only?

Twin-Linked Snap-Fire will not take you very far...

There is no nerf to walker shooting that I can see. Walkers/dreads are just like before you can move and fire everything. Walkers have relentless and move like infantry only with the added rule that they can fire all weapons.  So walkers always count as stationary for firing weapons even when they have moved just like relentless infantry.

They MOVE like Infantry, but still SHOOT like Vehicles.  Remember, all vehicles are Relentless, not just Walkers.

Only vehicle

[InsaneTD]

Don't get used to it. They already fucked some things with FAQs. *gumbletargetlocksgumble*

[Charistoph]

Don't get used to it. They already sav'y'xa'uk some things with FAQs. *gumbletargetlocksgumble*

And anyone who expected the first round of FAQs to be perfect were insanely optimistic.

Heck, it took 3 tries to get the Bretonnian Lance Formation correct for Fantasy 8th Edition!  And that was an easy one!

[InsaneTD]

Oh I never did. FAQs have never, nor will ever be, perfect. But even so, somethings are just so stupid. Why remove target locks altoghter? They weren't broken. But, that's been whinged about already, so lets move on.

[knightperson]

And just as another thread reports that the target lock and disruption pods are back, I found another really annoying omission. Behold the Tau Sniper Drone Team. Behold the Spotter of said team, who is essentially the squad-leader of the unit. More than that, if he dies, the rest of the unit is removed also. Sounds like a Character who should at least get a 4+ Look Out Sir, right? Wrong. There's nothing in the FAQ, and the reference table in the back lists him as In, not In (Ch). So no LOS for him.

[Scout Sergeant Mkoll]

And just as another thread reports that the target lock and disruption pods are back, I found another really annoying omission. Behold the Tau Sniper Drone Team. Behold the Spotter of said team, who is essentially the squad-leader of the unit. More than that, if he dies, the rest of the unit is removed also. Sounds like a Character who should at least get a 4+ Look Out Sir, right? Wrong. There's nothing in the FAQ, and the reference table in the back lists him as In, not In (Ch). So no LOS for him.

Yeah, but now your Disruption Pods are absolutely absurd. 3+ cover save as standard for a vehicle in cover for a measly 5pts? I'm sorry but no, that's ridiculous. Flechettes now have competition for the Most Ridiculously Priced Upgrade award it seems.

[Pottsey]

And just as another thread reports that the target lock and disruption pods are back, I found another really annoying omission. Behold the Tau Sniper Drone Team. Behold the Spotter of said team, who is essentially the squad-leader of the unit. More than that, if he dies, the rest of the unit is removed also. Sounds like a Character who should at least get a 4+ Look Out Sir, right? Wrong. There's nothing in the FAQ, and the reference table in the back lists him as In, not In (Ch). So no LOS for him.

Yeah, but now your Disruption Pods are absolutely absurd. 3+ cover save as standard for a vehicle in cover for a measly 5pts? I'm sorry but no, that's ridiculous. Flechettes now have competition for the Most Ridiculously Priced Upgrade award it seems.

Or 2+ cover if it

[The Man They Call Jayne]

The devilfish is still over priced even with that save. Although its utility just went up because it isnt worth shooting with anyway.